Thursday, 7 February 2019

Drover Family Heirloom

This lovely black glass milk jug was given to me by my Grandmother, Queenie Anderson, but was brought to Australia from Scotland by her mother Charlotte Drover in 1910.

It has no markings and is probably not worth anything in monetary value, but as the family came from Scotland I love the Scottish decoration of the rose and thistle.

Although the Drover family came to Australia in 1910, arriving on the "SS Osterley" on the 22 September, they came via a rather circuitous route. Charlotte Drover suffered from 'false angina' and was told by her doctors in Edinburgh that she needed to get out of Scotland to get relief. 

Charlotte Drover (nee Sutherland)
On the 28 Jul 1906 the family boarded the "Pretorian" and sailed for Toronto, Canada. I think Canada was chosen as there were many others in the family who previously emigrated there. Unfortunately, Charlotte's condition was no better in Canada, and doctors there told her she needed to go somewhere hot and dry, so they came to Brisbane. I don't know whether her condition was any better in Australia, but she lived to be 75, dying on 29 Oct 1937.

Wednesday, 9 August 2017

Researching Abroad - Finding European and British Isles Ancestors - Day 2

Chris Wright & Dirk Weissleder
Dirk Weissleder gave some excellent sessions on "Primary and Secondary Sources on Genealogy in Germany", "Introduction to European Research", "The International German Genealogical Partnership", and "Archives, Libraries, & Institutions for Genealogical Researchers in Germany".

We also heard about European Resources at GSQ, QFHS, and State Library of Queensland. Rosemary told us about more features of MyHeritage, and Helen gave a thorough introduction to "Using DNA to solve Genealogical Puzzles".

If you have a chance to attend, in one of the other capital cities, you really will enjoy yourself and learn a lot.

* As an Ambassador for these presentations, I received free entry.

Researching Abroad - Finding European and British Isles Ancestors - Day 1

A gathering of "Chris's" - Chris Wright, Chris Paton, and Chris Goopy
An excellent day full of information. Chris Paton told us all about British and Irish Newspapers, Scottish Research Resources before 1800, Irish Family History Resources Online, and Down and Out in Scotland: Researching Ancestry Crisis. 

We also heard about British Isles Resources at GSQ, QFHS, and State Library of Queensland.

Other presentations were on MyHeritage and Living DNA.

If you have a chance to attend, in one of the other capital cities, you really will enjoy yourself.

* As an Ambassador for these presentations, I received free entry.

Sunday, 23 July 2017

I'm an Ambassador!

I am really excited as I have been accepted as one of 24 Official Ambassadors for the "Unlock The Past" Researching Abroad Roadshow.

You can learn a little more about the roadshow by watching this short video (2 mins):

As well as local speakers, there are two excellent international speakers presenting, Chris Paton, who will be talking about Scottish and Irish research, and British topics. I am thrilled that I am going to be hearing in person from Chris. Listen to his overview here (1 min):

The other speaker is Dirk Weissleder, who will be speaking about European research topics. Listen to his overview here (<1min):

My research areas are Scotland, England and Germany, so this roadshow is perfect for me. It could well be coming to an area near you too, as it is running in Brisbane, Auckland, Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra, Adelaide and Perth. 

I'll be attending the Brisbane days, so look forward to meeting up again with all my genealogy friends, as well as learning lots of new techniques and information.

Click on the banner at the top to go to the link to book yourself in or click HERE.

* I get free entry to these sessions for being an Ambassador

Monday, 24 April 2017

Honouring the WWI ANZACS in our family, and the 10 who lost their lives serving - "Lest We Forget"


Sidney Victor ANDERSON

Alfred James ANGOVE

♰ William George BAIRD,%20WILLIAM%20GEORGE

Stanley George BAKER

Albert Theodore BASTEN

Alfred Norman BODINNAR

William Adolphous BODDINAR

Richard Henry BONE

Alexander John BOWDEN
New Zealand

♰ Edward James BOWDEN
New Zealand,%20EDWARD%20JAMES

Stanley Arthur BOWDEN
New Zealand

Albert Edward BRAY

Bernard Willmott BRAY

♰ Harold Oswald BRAY,%20HAROLD%20OSWALD

Phillip John BRAY

Richard Thomas BRAY

Robert Ford BRAY

Thomas Eli BRAY

Ottwell Hope BREMNER

Edwin Robert BROWN

William James BURROWS



Thomas Henry Spencer CARTHEW

Joseph Edward Thomas CATRON

William George James CATRON

Samuel Joseph DEVITT


Audrey Allison DROVER

Donald Percival Llewelyn DROVER

Frederick William Harvey DROVER

Thomas Neil DWIAR (WILSON)

Leslie Hazel HALES
New Zealand

Robert Galt HALL 

♰ Richard Alfred HARVEY,%20RICHARD%20ALFRED

Percival Alfred IRELAND

Albert Edwin IVIL Zealand

Albert Edwin IVIL
New Zealand

Ernest IVIL
New Zealand

Lawrence Stanley IVIL
New Zealand

Thomas IVIL
New Zealand

William George IVIL
New Zealand

♰ Leslie JOB,%20LESLIE

Percy Frederick JOB

Percy James JOB

Cornelius KENEALY


Thomas LOGAN

♰ James McCABE


Ada Isobel McPHERSON

♰ David James McPHERSON,%20DAVID%20JAMES

Melville Russell Gifford MOORE

Reginald Alfred NORRISH
New Zealand

Vernon Augustus NORRISH
New Zealand

Reginald Alfred NORRISH
New Zealand

Nathaniel Joseph O'BRIEN

Thomas Ambert O'BRIEN

William John O'BRIEN

Alfred Edward PEARSON

Wilfred Ivan PEARSON
New Zealand

Garnet Maidstone PERMAIN

♰ William Edgar RENFREE,%20WILLIAM%20EDGAR

♰ Thomas Albert John ROBERTS,%20THOMAS%20ALBERT%20JOHN

James Caleb SPICER

Samuel Archibald SPICER


Sydney George THOMAS


Richard Thomas TREMBATH

♰ William John TROYAHN,%20WILLIAM%20JOHN

George Philip WEINHEIMER

Albert Harold WHIP

Charles Alfred WOOLLEY
New Zealand

If you are aware of others in our family who served please let me know.
Poppy graphic from

Tuesday, 29 March 2016

Do we have a Hibell Family in Australia?

Sometimes a breakthrough in your family research can come from a quite unexpected place, and just 'out of the blue'.

This happened to me the other day when I received an email from eBay relating to the surname HIBELL. 

This is the item which was listed for sale:

The title of the item was: White's Family Hotel Glenelg Winston Private Hotel F L M Hibell Proprietor

Initially, I almost ignored the email, as it appeared to relate to something in Australia, and none of my HIBELL family, (as far as I knew), came to Australia, but the long line of initials on the document "H. R. & F. L. M. HIBELL" made me think I should look more closely.

I searched in my family tree and found that I had a Horace Robert born in the Apr quarter 1900, (Staffordshire) to Benjamin Francis HIBELL and Caroline (nee WHITE).  Although one of 13 children, I had no further information on Horace past the 1901 and 1911 census records of him with his family.. I made a note in my family tree that it was possible that this was Horace in Australia. I thought that I should try and find a marriage for HR and FLM, but couldn't come up with anything in Australia, or on Free BMD in England (this marriage could possibly be too late). 

Luckily, I had taken out the 1 pound for a month offer on FindMyPast. A search of the Australian records for HIBELL brought up 3 records that were immediately of interest:

HIBELL FLM - born 1899, event 1956 - passenger list leaving UK - location Adelaide
HIBELL Florence LM - born 1900, died 1977 - Billion Graves
HIBELL Horace Robert - born 1900, died 1969 - South Australian Deaths - location Adelaide 

A search in TROVE found a few references to Robert, but the main one of interest was an Engagement notice for a daughter Judith to Ivan Jones, a medical student from Sydney. 

FindAGrave gave me the full names of both people, Horace Robert and Florence Lydia May, along with actual death dates, and their burial in the same cemetery.

Genealogy SA confirmed that Florence Lydia May was the wife of Horace Robert, something which FindAGrave did not have. More information is available if I joined, and there were 5 newspaper death notices, the one for Florence, but also for a John and Anthony John in 2007, (I have not followed these up yet).

Even though I do not have a subscription for, I was able to find 4 images in Public Family Trees, that for Horace Robert, 2 for the Hotel, and one titled "Hibell Family emigrates to Australia, 1949, naming them as John, Flo, Bob, Judith. The source of this photo was given as Judith Jones. So even though I couldn't find a marriage for Judith to Ivan Jones, it seems possible that they did indeed marry. At some time in the future, I will contact the owner of this tree.

A similar search for Flo Hibell brought up a photo of Flo Hibell taken in 1947, with her full name given as Florence Lydia May Finney (born 1899).

Although, as yet, I have no definite proof that this little family of:
Horace Robert HIBELL, born 1900, England, died 25 Nov 1969 Adelaide
Florence Lydia May HIBELL (nee FINNEY), born 12 Apr 1899, England, died 6 Mar 1977 Adelaide
Possible son: Anthony John, born 10 Feb 1921, died 2007 Adelaide
Daughter: Judith, born 8 Dec 1930, England, married Ivan Jones
is the family of my Horace Robert Hibell, it seems quite likely, and I am confident that in the future that I will be able to confirm this. But, it was the automatic notification from eBay which led me to this information.

Tuesday, 23 December 2014

One Lovely Blog Award

In October I was nominated for the 'Lovely Blog' Award, and, as I not a particularly prolific blogger, it has taken me 2 months to respond. Thanks to Chris from The 'Back Fence of Genealogy' Blog  for the nomination.

The suggestions for passing on the award, if you wish to do so, are as follows... 
  • Thank the person who nominated you and link back to that blog.
  • Share seven things about yourself – see mine below (I think you'll learn more about me - than perhaps you wanted to know!).
  • Nominate 15 bloggers you admire –or as many as you can think of!.
  • Contact your bloggers to let them know you’ve tagged them for the One Lovely Blog Award...

1 - How I got Genealogy-itis
I caught the Genealogy Bug in 1983 when my parents came for a holiday and my father dropped the bomb-shell that he was adopted! I was 23 and this was the first I had ever heard of this. Dad had always been interested in family history, and, over the years had shared lots of information with me. He had also collected certificates and information. As a kid, you don't recognise that 50 years old is a bit late for a woman to be having a baby (especially in those days), or that it was strange that he was raised on goats milk. When he told me about his adoption it brought forth a huge range of emotions. On one hand I felt devastated and betrayed by not having been told this earlier as Mum and Dad were both quite religious. A lot of things that Dad had said in the past clicked into place, and I was intrigued by the story. He believed he knew who his real father was, but had been told that his mother didn't want him. I set out to find out who his mother was, and here I am still 'hooked' 31 years later.

2 - Why I still enjoy Genealogy
There are lots of reasons I am passionate about Genealogy, and they include, (but not limited to), the following things - I enjoy:
  • solving puzzles using methodical research; 
  • spending time in Libraries and Archives; 
  • the technology involved, including all the tech-toys, the software, the webpage
  • photography, especially of gravestones, buildings & people & old photos;  
  • local history research to build up the context of my families lives;
  • the great focus it gives for holidays and trips (see my travel blog);
  • stationery, which I love, and you sure need lots for family history!;
  • organisation, although I am not as organised as I really dream of being;
  • finding new family members;
  • sharing my eureka moments; and
  • teaching others how to get started
3 - What frustrates me about Genealogy
I get really frustrated by family members not giving me information when I ask for it. Although, Facebook has overcome a bit of this. I am now able to 'friend' younger family members, whose lax attitude to privacy allows me to gather all sorts of family information. I also get really frustrated by some people who subscribe to a particularly successful online genealogy service, and who seem to just gather ancestors with no even basic checking of the information. I  'know' the information I seek is out there somewhere, usually tucked away in an obscure local library or archives, but sometimes in a place that would be hard to imagine.

4 - The ancestor I would most like to meet
Alexander Coutts, who was born in Finzean, Birse, Abderdeenshire in Scotland around 1819 is a big mystery to me. He wasn't baptised (that I can find) and so his parentage is pure speculation. There were lots of Coutts families in the area, at the time, so it is very likely that he is pretty much related to them all, but it would be really nice to ask him which one was his.

5 - The ancestor I am most intrigued by
William Henry Anderson was a self-made man, and entrepreneur. His father was a baker, but he did well in pubs and was dealing in thousands of pounds before he was 40. He married a couple of times, and I am perplexed that he didn't appear to leave a will when he died at 68, especially after the disastrous events that had happened only 8 years before when his eldest son died intestate, and W.H. had to provide for the children, and the son's second wife took off with all the money.

6 - Other things I like apart from Genealogy
I know this will shock my husband, but I 'do' actually like things other than Genealogy! Family and friends are the most important to me, but I am also interested in Science (somewhat in all sciences, but mainly astronomy, mathematics, biology including fossils, aquatic invertebrates, herpetology, and would love to learn more in geology), Arts & Crafts (crochet, knitting, sewing, bark painting, origami, pottery, silver-smithing, copper enameling, stained glass, scrap-booking, macrame, paper-making, screen-printing, block printing, soap making, card-making, upholstery, pressed flowers, nature photography, silk painting, mosaics, tapestry, candle-making, painting & drawing, and paper mache), bush-walking, native edible plants, camping, leisure cycling, history, reading (mostly Science Fiction & Fantasy, but other genres too - when I get time to read), cooking (but not the daily meal grind), health (including healthy lifestyle, complementary therapies and personal responsibility for health), and technology - I love computers and the internet! 

7 - Other things that take my fancy: glass - pretty much most things made of it, especially paperweights, bottles, and glass balls in green, blue. purple or red glass, puppets, kites, mobiles, lizards, eggs, butterflies, peripatus, feathers, shells, amber, crystal and other skulls, pyramids, lights, steam-punk, dragons, freshwater aquariums & fish, terrariums, licorice, dark chocolate,  wine, coffee, bbq ribs, lamb chops & roast, smoked fish, mushrooms and music (I have quite eclectic taste and collection). 

My nominations for One Lovely Blog Award (I am really impressed as these wonderful people manage to write their blogs quite regularly, and educate us with their wise words):

Angler's Rest - Julie Goucher

Australian Genealogy News - Aillin O'Brien

British Genes - Chris Paton

Genealogy's Star - James Tanner

GenieAus - Jill Ball

Lonetester - Alona Tester

Queensland Genealogy - Judy Webster

The Armchair Genealogist - Lynn Palermo

The Legal Genealogist - Judy G. Russell